帮忙解释一下what does s/s- stand for in CLEC

[hancunxin]

listen [vp1,-2] the music, eat [ vp6 s-4] the food, and talk

谁能帮忙解释一下， [ vp6 s-4] 里面的S表示什么意思？ 以上截选于CLEC（中国学习者英语语料库）。在他们网站上查了标注，只知道VP6表示时态错误，－ 表示错误所在， 4 表示离错误词语4个词位置才能判断错误。不知道 S 是什么意思？

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[hancunxin]

cc4,1-1] thing. [sn8,s] how can [ vp6 s-] we get ready? also
get ready? also he wants [ vp6 s-] to make a normal
normal match. but he doesn't [ vp6 s-] have enough ability. he
day, [sn9,s] the weather is [ vp6 s-] rainly [fm2,1-]. when we
i was fine. i was [ vp6 s-] glad i have a
of blood. that's very terrible [ vp6 s]. i frighent [fm1,-] ,
mother cried, too. we don't [ vp6 s-]now how she died. i
bobby is my good friend [ vp6 s]. i cannot never [wd5,1-]forget
by plain [wd3,1-]. i watch [ vp6 s-] too much of flying
than road accident," i become [ vp6 s-] less hand shaking. but
beijing to moscow, it take [ vp6 s-] ten hours nearly [ad1,1-].
heavy cloudy beneath us. it's [ vp6 s-] beautiful, but i'm [vp6,s-]
it's [vp6,s-] beautiful, but i'm [ vp6 s-] not so interesting in
down?" luckly [fm1,-1], this does [ vp6 s-] not happen. [sn8,s] i'm


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[oscar3]

I referred to the tagger sets in Gui Shichun(2003), unfortunately, I failed to work out what this s / s- stands for.

[hancunxin]

yes, thanks , anyway.

[hancunxin]

以下是引用 oscar3 在 2005-7-27 15:42:51 的发言：
I referred to the tagger sets in Gui Shichun(2003), unfortunately, I failed to work out what this s / s- stands for.


yes, thanks, anyway.

[tiger]

"s" is short for "sentence." "-s" means we must consider the whole sentence before we can locate the error.

[oscar3]

以下是引用 tiger 在 2005-7-27 17:40:21 的发言：
"s" is short for "sentence." "-s" means we must consider the whole sentence before we can locate the error.


Then, how about "s"?

[xiaoz]

I believe that these are instances of inconsistant annotation (maybe by different annotators). For the same category vp6, with or without a numeral indicating the location of an error, some use s but others do not.

[hancunxin]

i agree with tiger on that.

[tiger]

以下是引用 oscar3 在 2005-7-27 18:15:32 的发言：
以下是引用 tiger 在 2005-7-27 17:40:21 的发言：
"s" is short for "sentence." "-s" means we must consider the whole sentence before we can locate the error.

Then, how about "s"?


You mean ''s'' in isolation?
I think I've explained "s" in the error tags very clearly.

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[oscar3]

以下是引用 tiger 在 2005-7-28 11:37:34 的发言：
以下是引用 oscar3 在 2005-7-27 18:15:32 的发言：
以下是引用 tiger 在 2005-7-27 17:40:21 的发言：
"s" is short for "sentence." "-s" means we must consider the whole sentence before we can locate the error.

Then, how about "s"?


You mean ''s'' in isolation?
I think I've explained "s" very clearly.



What's the difference between "s" and "-s"?

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[hancunxin]

"s" stands for " sentence" ."- "stands for the position of error or mistakened word.

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[xiaoz]

But why do some have "s" and some have "-s"?

[hancunxin]

以下是引用 xiaoz 在 2005-7-28 22:51:38 的发言：
But why do some have "s" and some have "-s"?




cc4,1-1] thing. [sn8,s] how can [ vp6 s-] we get ready? also
get ready? also he wants [ vp6 s-] to make a normal
normal match. but he doesn't [ vp6 s-] have enough ability. he

of blood. that's very terrible [ vp6 s]. i frighent [fm1,-] ,
bobby is my good friend [ vp6 s]. i cannot never [wd5,1-]forget


试比较以上有下划线的单词，不知道能不能说明一点问题？补充一点，VP6 代表时态错误。依我看，上面三个下划线单词通过句子判断有时态错误，下面两个有下划线的单词一个是形容词，一个名词，没有时态错误。以上只是我的猜测而已，仅供参考。


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[tiger]

以下是引用 hancunxin 在 2005-7-28 19:57:47 的发言：
"s" stands for " sentence" ."- "stands for the position of error or mistakened word.
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Agree with hancunxin.
For more detailed information about the error tags, please see 桂诗春，杨惠中，（2002），《中国学习者英语语料库》，pp 4-8，and 杨惠中，（2002），《语料库语言学导论》，p 69。

[xujiajin]

Is it possible that this is an inconsistency of annotation in CLEC?

[hancunxin]

i don't think so. such a mistake is very unlikely in that great research. we may refer to Dr. Li Wenzhong.